| Name: | Martin |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | martinmontgomery@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | Ooh this is a good one. You
ask: how can God be perfect when so much of his creation is imperfect?
Weeellll, think about this: The Garden of Eden existed before sin,
correct? Well then, wasn't God's creation originally perfect? Man was made
in God's image, and therefore perfect, correct? Well once satan fullfilled
his role of tempting Eve, and Eve succumbed to this, and ate of the tree
of good and evil, sin was born. Therefore, God himself IS perfect;
however, we are not, and that is the point! December 16, 2003 22:45:53 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Martin |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | martinmontgomery@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | It seems you have a serious
problem with the thought of an omniscient God. You address the point of
God knowing who is going to Heaven and who is going to Hell. This is known
as Double-Predestination. Now, I myself believe that there is no possible
way that we, as sinful humans, could really choose God of our own accord.
Therefore, I must put my faith in the fact that God has led me to him. Now
to address the fact of who is going to Heaven and who is going to Hell,
you must understand that God is all-powerful, right? He has the power to
do whatever he likes and chooses. Take a look at Romans 9:14-18. The
scripture states: "What then are we to say? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! For he says to Moses, 'I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.' So it depends no on human will or exhertion, but on God who shows mercy. For the scripture says to Pharoah, 'I have raised you up for the very purpose of showing my power in you, so that my name may be proclaimed all the earth.' So then he has mercy on whomever he chooses, and he hardens the heart of whomever he chooses." The whole point of this passage is the fact that the only reason that God created Pharoah was to show his glory through him. It says that he hardened his heart; that is, Pharoah could not have become a Christian because he WILLED it!! Interesting concept, right? December 16, 2003 22:39:55 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Martin |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | martinmontgomery@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | Interesting concepts you have
here. I myself am a Christian and I can prove each of you points wrong in
one way or another. While you do have valid points and a good knowledge of
the bible, you've missed several key points in the bible and the Christian
religion. Here are some points that I believe will prove your points to be
incorrect: Let's start with FREE WILL. Yes in a sense you DO have free will, and in a sense you DON'T. By giving your life to Christ, you put your life in God's hands. Now, whether you believe in God or not, you still must understand that God knows what your future actions are. This doesn't affect your free will at all!! You still may make a decision on your own, but whether it is a good one or a bad one, God uses all things for good. So to make my point, although you do have a free will, you must understand that God is in charge of our lives, something that I feel is an honor. I will continue in another post December 16, 2003 22:23:00 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Ed Phillips |
| Homepage: | http://www.ourcatholicfaith.org/ |
| E-Mail: | OurCatholicFaith@aol.com |
| Comments: | Hi Derrick I read with interest parts of your website. It seems that you are a former fundamentalist that realizes that some portions of the Bible cannot be taken literally since there ARE obvious contradictions in the way it was written. Yet you do take it literally in some of your disputes. This is really causing you some problems in the development of your faith. The Bible is merely a starting point in any journey of faith. Remember what Paul told Timothy in his letter: "But if I should be delayed, you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth." 1 Timothy 3:15 Questioning of faith is common. Many people that focus so hard on the wording of the bible often find themselves at their wits ends. There are contradictions. For example, the Lord's Prayer is different in both places of the new testament. What I feel you are missing is the truth found in the bible. Keep questioning. One of these days it will all come together. I myself was unchurched for 27 years before God touched my heart. I'm not really sure if I was an atheist, probably just an agnostic. I wish you the best and want to assure you that eventhough you may not believe in God, he believes in you. Please don't take this as an attack. I feel strongly that if you took time to seriously learn the TRUTH about the Catholic Faith, you would find peace. There are SO many lies abounding in the Protestant Faith about Catholics. (No, we don't worship Mary or statues .....) I wish you well and God WILL bless you. Ed December 16, 2003 00:16:55 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Paul |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | metalboy20@aol.com |
| Comments: | I find this sight well
structured, however most of your problems with the bible come from the old
testament. How can you knock christian faith with these jewish beliefs? I
do not understand how you have enough technical knowledge to be able to
set up this site and present you ideas and still not realize your only
relevent arguements come from old testament. December 11, 2003 23:07:22 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Clay |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | theguyverone@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | Nice site! Put those catholics
back into their place. There is no god, and you're all fools for claiming
different. December 03, 2003 20:42:52 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | david lott |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | davidlott00@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | your arguments are quite
feeble. easily debunked by simply picking up a bible and researching it
myself. now, i'm no scholar but i doubt very seriously your ability to do
anything other than nod your head and bow out gracefully when when debated
by the likes of Lee Strobel, Philip Yancey, Phillip Johnson, Hank
Hanegraaff, John Macarthur, Ravi Zacharias, Craig Blomberg, Bruce Metzger,
Edwin Yamauchi, John McRay....the list goes on. these guys have guys like
you for breakfast. but my guess is that you wouldn't face the music. all
you really want to do is deny the existance of God. it must really
irritate you that i used a capitol g for the word God. hey, if i'm wrong
i'm just wrong. but if you're wrong...well, enjoy!!! December 02, 2003 11:16:39 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Obelisk |
| Homepage: | http://obelisk.virtualave.net |
| E-Mail: | |
| Comments: | Nice site. Keep up the good
work. November 29, 2003 9:22:15 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Josh Salmons |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | joshsalmons@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | Your writings sure do make a
person think and do some questioning. I know I've had a Christian
upbringing and I've wondered how all this mumbo-jumbo in the Bible and in
the sermons can be real. Thanks for writing this, and I'd like to see some
more if you write more. You interest me, and I kind of want to get this
straight before I graduate from high school this year. I'm being sent to a
Christian college and I'm not sure it's what I want, but my dad is not
about to change his mind, it seems. I hope you and me can talk online some
time. You sound like you're in your late 30s or more but that's okay. I
can deal with older guys if they will listen to me. I hate being treated
like a kid when I'm almost 17 and I do have a mind of my own. Thanks. I
don't know if you'll ever read this, but I'm glad I wrote to you. Sincerely, Josh Salmons (Ohio) November 26, 2003 20:26:05 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Tiffany |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | azygurl@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | I saw your page for "problems"
with the idea of heaven. I hope that you didn't leave your faith over that
because a lot of those question can be answered. For instance, Jesus
addressed the question of who you will be married to in heaven if you were
married more than once in Matthew 22:23-30. As for our bodies when we
enter heaven, Philippians 3:21 and 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 says that the
bodies we are given are incorruptable. I've never read anything that would
suggest age,but I guess I'll see when I get there. Overall, it seems
really easy to critisize Christianity when it's dealing with something you
couldn't possibly understand. You can either believe that Christians are
mindless sheep, or you can explore the possibity that there just might be
something too big for you to comprehend. If you haven't already, please
read "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel. He is an aethist turned
Christian. Perhaps some of your questions will be answered. November 15, 2003 15:39:46 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Shawn |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | |
| Comments: | Nice website Derrick.
Informative and eye opening.
November 13, 2003 00:37:53 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Sue |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | SBotchie@aol.com |
| Comments: | Yea, the Bible is really
difficult to understand. But guess what, so is H&R Block's Tax Course (and
that C++ text). The Bible and the tax-course have one main thing in
common, both had been written by humans. We've all heard that atheists generally have higher IQs than Christians. Don't know the stats, (and don't really care) but from what i've heard about super intelligent people is: more often than not, they are rather lonely. Sounds logical, after all, a fella with an IQ of 150 - surrounded throughout his entire life, by a vast majority no smarter than 120 - is bound to not have much of a social life. After all, what on or off earth is JoeRocketScientist (who has also has feelings and needs) to talk about, when his family and community are into accounting, car maintenance, home repair, and maybe an occasional science program on "Discovery Channel?" November 12, 2003 11:08:20 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | jon again |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | |
| Comments: | You should read a Case for
Faith and a Case for Christ all, those questions such as "why is there
suffering in the world" are addressed. If you really want to know the
answers to those questions (not your answers, the REAL answers), read
those books. November 10, 2003 1:24:39 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Bro' Bob |
| Homepage: | http://www.voy.com/122092/ |
| E-Mail: | robertbaral@yahoo.co.in |
| Comments: | Dear Derrick: You're all wrong about GOD and The Bible. Everything the Bible says is True and Correct because it was inspired by GOD The Creator. So you better get right with JESUS or you'll end up burnt toast in the hottest flames of hell forever! Your Friend, Bob The Idiot November 8, 2003 21:44:58 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Adam Yisrael |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | |
| Comments: | My apologies for misspelling
your name in the previous entry! Also, my ring show that it was created and managed by Aaronica because she is my wife. She is a BBW internet porn star, with (for the moment) the largest BBW adult Yahoo club of any single individual. You might find an essay by James Buckner located at http://home.att.net/~j-buckner/tough.html interesting, as well as my reply to it (go to the bottom, click next, then all the way to the bottom link on the page). Mr. Buckner though enough of my answer to give me a category all my own. November 3, 2003 18:20:36 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Adam Yisrael |
| Homepage: | http://proventruth.org |
| E-Mail: | adamyisrael@fastwebworld.com |
| Comments: | Hi Derrik. Well thought-out
and excellently articulated site you've got here. I'm the guy that started
the "Religion Ruined My Life" ring, and thought you would like to know
that the Bible has one thing to say about religion: STAY AWAY FROM
RELIGION. How so? Feel free to start a dialogue via email with me about
this and the other questions you have regarding the bible, etc. Also, tecnhically "God", "G_d", "Allah", and the other dreck gods do exist -- they exist in the same place the tooth fairy exists -- in the minds of people who will not demand proof. Glad to have you aboard the ring. November 3, 2003 18:09:44 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Geno |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | |
| Comments: | To the William post. I totally agree with all your statements. Very well thought out. October 20, 2003 23:56:55 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | edmond |
| Homepage: | http://www.punkriot.com/forum |
| E-Mail: | edmond@punkriot.com |
| Comments: | check it out! new message
board! www.punkriot.com/forum October 20, 2003 21:17:27 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | William |
| Homepage: | http://gravensword.scripterz.org/ |
| E-Mail: | shadowchaotics@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | I have to comment on a post
left by "Zach". If you cant explain where 'god' came from, then why are
you questioning where the big bang came from? obviously you cant prove
that god was real, so there's no integrity to saying that god is real. And
we DO see stars being born, millions of years ago, if you know anything at
all about astronomy you would know this. You must've been through biology
to know about DNA/RNA/Polymerase, so, you would know that organs form
because as cells grew they needed to replicate because the ratio of
materials going into materials going out was too wide. So, as a result,
organs were made to perform specific jobs to benefit the WHOLE organism.
And yes this is a complex process, so everyone thinks it needs a creator.
Prove it. I have never seen one single shred of evidence that god is real.
A book. The bible is not proof. They make children's books about Santa
Claus and other fairy tales. Are those real? Of course not, but thinking
from the Christian point of view, if its not proven to exist it must exist
right? please, save it, im tired of the mass of Christians preaching their
'holy spirit' to me, I was Christian until i became a teenager and was
able to think for myself, not one time I was in church did i ever sense
'gods' presence. And many Christians will say I never had faith, if you
had known me you would see that I 'loved' and believed in god more than
anything, until I didn't get answers back to all my prayers. If god has a
divine plan why is there a hell? If god is so great, wouldn't he have
foreseen the rebellion led by Lucifer? The bible has many faults, many,
and even if some things on this site aren't perfectly written straight
from the bible, the majority is true, and I think all the Christians on
here are just mad at the fact that they might have wasted all this time on
something that's not true. Christianity scares people into believing in
it, and if Christians think some great being created everything and gave
us souls and life all at the same time as the animals, why are there
fossils? how did Noah fit so many damn animals on his ship? Why doesn't
god just make everything right? Because there is no god. If people didn't
have religion, how many lives over the countless ages would be spared?
most of the wars fought across the globe were sparked by religion. If god
foreseen this, why did he let it happen? If I was Christian and had faith
my whole life and served god, and 10 minutes before I died I stole a car
and ran over someone with it on purpose, I would go to hell, for ETERNITY,
a ridiculous punishment, barbaric and harsh in every aspect. Everyone that
believes in this stuff, take my advice: Get out of it and live life while
you can, its too short to waste it on something that's so fake. October 13, 2003 18:22:57 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Korey hearT |
| Homepage: | http://www.skforums.com |
| E-Mail: | milk_krate_kid@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | Great Site. I enjoyed the
three hours it too me to read the whole thing. October 12, 2003 20:13:12 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Zach |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | drabick.1@osu.edu |
| Comments: | There are only 2 ways in which
this universe got here: Either it made itself or somebody made it So either creation or evolution is true. Both are religions so you cannot say you are against religion. If I told you that I believe in the God of the Holy Bible, then you would ask me "Where did God come from," and I have no idea and neither does anyone else, therefore it requires some faith so believe in and is a religion. However, I could ask an evolutionist "where did matter come from?" They will say the Big Bang and I would ask "where did the Big Bang come from?" No one will know, They could guess but that is not part of science. Evolution is just as much, if not more than Christianity is. How did matter get here? How did the energy get here that the big bang required and produced? How do you know the earth is 4.6 billion years old? or do you believe that? How can life arise from non-living matter? And even if it did, how would it know how to reproduce and what to eat? How did DNA form? How did it learn to replicate itself and how could it replicate without RNA and the proteins needed in the process? How are organs going to form? Are they going to sit there for millions of years waiting for the other organs to form? If natural selection kills off the weak and the different, wouldnt those organs be killed off? How does natural selection know what is beneficial and what is weak without knowing the future? If you keep breeding dogs together for a millions years, what will you get? I bet its a dog. If the big bang produced hydrogen, where did all the other elements come from? We've never seen a star form, so how did they get here? October 12, 2003 0:44:59 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | andrea |
| Homepage: | http://www.cheesy-wotsits.co.uk |
| E-Mail: | andrea@an0ther.com |
| Comments: | Wow! I have never seen a site
like this one before, I am very impressed and agree with everything that
is here! October 11, 2003 17:29:24 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | geno |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | |
| Comments: | great site i 100% agree with
everything with what was said. October 9, 2003 16:53:04 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | kathy spinks |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | puddles2580@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | fall to your knees and pray
for forgiveness before it is too late, eternity in hell is a long time my
friend October 9, 2003 14:01:41 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Danny |
| Homepage: | http://doesnt matter |
| E-Mail: | no thanks |
| Comments: | Hey, I'm sorry... Your page's arguments contain some of the shoddiest logic and the least thought through arguments I have ever seen. I, myself, am an atheist in fact. BUT, even I, who DOESN'T believe in Christ/etc, saw holes and mistruths in over half the things I read on your site. I WAS composing a letter picking them apart, and I just stopped because it got to be so many. So, um.... appreciate the "enlightenment", I suppose. But, come on. Put some thought behind that effort.... Yours, Danny October 9, 2003 1:50:05 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Shawna |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | sns@yeayea.com |
| Comments: | Okay, first of all, I was
reading the comments and came across this one - "your a fucking loser,
keep all you stupid close-minded comments to your fucking self you piece
of shit. You don't believe in god? Fine. I do. You don't see me making
websites about why he exists and all this bullshit. You must have had a
rough life growing up.. kids probally beat the shit out of you every day,
so you spend your worthless life making stupid webpages like this. Keep up
the good work." Yeah, that's real christian-like. Cussing and thinking bad
thoughts about someone. I find that a lot. When I tell people I don't
believe in god, they start preaching. Quoting the bible. When I mention a
contradiction they say that god has the answer, or it's all in god's plan.
Tell me, why is it that all these people think they know every damn thing
about life just because they read a fuckin book? So all it takes to
brainwash so many people into believing a story is a book? Well then damn
I need to get to writin huh??? Does no one understand that it's just a
book? I cannot understand why so many people believe it's true. Well
actually, I kinda do understand. Many people say that "when you find god,
you feel complete", well I think that these people feel complete after
finding something to believe in simply because they weren't fulfilled in
life, and they found SOMETHING to fill the void. It wouldn't matter what
that something was, they would still feel fulfilled. All these religious
freaks just need something to believe in and make them be a better person,
which is also the reason I think someone wrote the bible. I think it was
written because they knew that the human race would need something to keep
it on the right track, keep us all sane. I mean shit, I can't believe
there aren't a million people who believe Harry Potter is real. If they
can believe in the bible, why not believe in Harry Potter? Same concept
right? Magical powers... And tell me, what about all the people across the
world who have never even heard of christianity? Are they all going to
hell since they don't believe in god? And I guess I'm going to hell, even
though I am such a good person, just because I find it hard to believe in
some book with no proof that anything in it really happened. And all you
christians quoting the bible, tell me HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE??? HOW DO
YOU KNOW ANY OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS REAL???? Is there any way to prove
it? You guys always call athiests close-minded, but have you ever stopped
to open your mind up? Have you ever just opened up a little to think that
that thing you believe in so deeply and blindly is just a book, with no
evidence of anything in it? I get so tired of people telling me it's sad
that I don't believe in god, and so quick to preach words that they read
in a book of stories. If you find it so easy to just devote yourself to
someone you've never seen, then why not uhhhhh Santa Clause? Why don't you
think he's real? Tell me why not? Because there's no proof of him? Because
someone couldn't get around the whole world in one night? Well compare
that to a story of someone just saying "let there be light" and POOF there
it is. And also, how do you know that all the other religions in the world
aren't right? How do you know that you aren't wrong? What if you believe
in the wrong god? What if you're going to their hell because you don't
believe in their god? Okay I apologize for going on and on, but these are my thoughts. I could write a book about this. October 9, 2003 0:36:14 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Anonymous |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | |
| Comments: | I'm very sorry that you feel
the way that you do. You have closed your mind to the greatness of God's
creation. No where in the Bible does it say that the Earth is only 7,000
years old. You forget that God is an almighty being that works in His own
ways. One day to him could be thousands or millions of years for us. I
hope and pray that someday someone will come along into your life and show
you that God truly does exist and that the only way to Heaven is through
Him. Your life may also be great now, but if you had stuck with your
commitment with God then you would be blessed tenfold more than you may
feel that you are today. There is no blessing from God for atheists. Your
views on Jesus are terrible. He was for sure a sinless man, and the Bible
proves it, but you took a few simple PARTS of stories and twisted them to
your own foolish ways. I'm truly sorry that you feel this way, and I will
keep you in my prayers, that you may one day truly come back.
October 8, 2003 13:44:22 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | sabrina |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | |
| Comments: | I truly feel sorry for you in
many ways. God is going to hold you accountable for everyone you lead away
from HIM. In the beginning...God was that light..if you read further in to
the bible maybe do some bible studies not taking upon yourself to decipher
the bible you would know this. You did not convert from a Christian to an
atheist..you were never a Christian...just a wanna be...a true Christian
has the Holy spirit and that Spirit teaches you things and shows you how
to read the bible curately. Someone failed to teach you in according to
God's word and I am very sorry that you were failed by them. I will pray
for you. Search for the Truth (JESUS) the bible is one big code and the
HOLY SPIRIT can decode it for you...James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom
let him ask of God, who gives to ALL men liberally and WITHOUT finding
fault and it shall be given him...2 timothy 3:16 ALL scripture is God
breathed and useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in
righteousness. Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived; God CANNOT be mocked. a man reaps what he sows.2 Corinthians 3:16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord the veil is taken away. CODE...turn to the Lord for the answers and He will show you the clear, whole picture without some veil covering your sight. October 8, 2003 9:08:48 (GMT Time) |
| Name: | Brian |
| Homepage: | |
| E-Mail: | Madduxcard@aol.com |
| Comments: | Thank you very much Derrick.
After reading through your site, I must sincerely thank you for taking the
time and care to put together such a comprehensive site with no shortages
of arguments / proofs. I truly feel badly for children growing up, being forced into a religion through their parents. Having Christianity spoon fed to them for those crucial years through childhood prevents children from effectively thinking for themselves. By the time these kids are old enough to critically think important religious issues through, they've become so closed minded as to deny anything that threatens their current beliefs. While a bit harsh, I do think the term "brainwashing" may apply. I am very thankful for my parents not forcing me into a religion, but rather, encouraging me to find one that truly suits my feelings and beliefs. I am, by nature, a science guy, and I need clear undisputed proof of the existence of god (or gods) for me to believe. I have yet to find one. There aren't many religions out there that are ok with the concept of atheism, therefore, I find Unitarian Universalism best suited for my beliefs. While my personal beliefs differ from many (probably most) other UUs who DO believe in a Christian god, the UU principles need no proof and are good concepts to live by. You don't need to believe in a god to live a fruitful, moral life. Simply by being kind hearted and generous, compassionate and loving, one can successfully live a meaningful life. My suggestion to those questioning their faith, is to figure out what you truly believe, and find a religion that matches up. Think for yourself. No one should force you to conform to ANY religion - these are YOUR beliefs. Find what's right for YOU. Sorry for the somewhat off-topic rant, but thanks again, Derrick! Keep up the good work! October 8, 2003 2:19:42 (GMT Time) |
